The Pro Flipper Show

Throwback Interview With Nick Loper From Side Hustle Nation

Episode Summary

Rob & Melissa Stephenson from Flea Market Flipper share a throwback interview with Nick Loper from Side Hustle Nation.

Episode Notes

Rob On Side Hustle Nation Episode 147

Rob On Side Hustle Nation Episode 298

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Episode Transcription

Reseller Hangout Podcast 

Rob: What's up, pro flipper? On today's episode, we are doing a blast from the past, an interview that I did back in 2018 with Nick Loper, Side Hustle Nation. So, great, great information. Had a great time on it. So we wanted to give you guys that interview. And just hopefully have some great takeaways from it.

Melisa: Yeah, it's fun to go back and, and interviewers always ask great questions, so it's kind of like a different perspective. So, he dives into a little bit more of our business. So, hopefully you get some good information out of it and we're excited to share it. I cannot believe that was five years ago.

Crazy. Time just flies. 

Rob: Stay tuned. 

Nick: Side hustle show 298, buy low, sell high, repeat. This is the return of the flea market Flipper. What's up? What's up? Nick Loper here. Welcome to The Side Hustle Show because the ability to find profit is the ultimate job security, and the good news is it's a skill that can be learned. Today on the show I'm excited to welcome back someone who I think is particularly skilled at finding profit, usually in places where other people can't see it or don't see it. One of my favorite guests, Rob, The Flea Market Flipper Stevenson. Now, we last heard from Rob in episode 147, back in late 2015. At that time, he was earning 30 to $40,000 a year, flipping random products on the side from his day job.

Since then, the father of three has taken his buy low sell high model. And turned it into a full-time six figure operation. And when I say random products, I mean it as you're about to hear, Rob doesn't discriminate what it is as long as he can pick it up for a great price, and I can't blame him because some of these single deals are worth thousands of dollars in profit in this.

Where are they now? Episode I invited Rob back to learn how he scaled up his business, what his buying criteria or flipping process looks like today, and what he's got cooking next. 

We kicked this one off with his family's recent trip to the world's longest yard sale. Ready? Let's do it. 

Rob: Yeah. The thing was awesome. 690 miles and it span across six states. So we had a blast. We took the whole family up. We spent a week traveling and then, a week up in Michigan where the yard till actually ended.

So we, we had a great time. 

Nick: So this is nuts. I just looked this up. 127yardsale.com. So runs along Highway one seven. Like are people just set up on the side of the road? 

Rob: Yeah, it's crazy. We didn't know what to expect. We actually took our enclosed trailer, we took our bikes, our pull behind trailers for the kids and stuff like that.

We didn't really know what to expect, but come to find out, it's along this road that goes all the way from Alabama up to Michigan. And yeah, they, they set up tents all, there's a couple different designated areas where they put probably a hundred, 200 vendors in a, in a field, you know, in the middle of nowhere.

And then you just drive in there, you park and you go look at all their stuff. And in some places, people that just live on the side of 127 they just set stuff out. It's like a garage sale there, but there's just, there's gotta be thousands and thousands of vendors along this throughout, which it was awesome.

It was a blast. 

Nick: Tell me about some of the best stuff that you found. 

Rob: We ended up spending about $560 on the way up. We bought 12 items and we should be able to make between four and $5,000 once we flip 'em. Two of our biggest ones that we bought, I bought a concrete polisher, Husqvarna, which was really cool.

The guy was asking, $550 for it. I talked 'em down to $360 and I should be able to sell that for roughly $2,000. And then our other big one that we bought was a step or a Proform stepper trainer, like an exercise machine, and we paid $75 for that. I should be able to get about $850 for that.

Nick: Okay. And so you had the little like flatbed trailer pulling behind your car or pulling behind the SUV? 

Rob: An enclosed trailer. Yeah, we have a, an SUV and we pulled the enclosed trailer behind it. So we were able to put, you know, our luggage in the front of it. And then we had plenty of room for storage and stuff like that.

So that was, and hindsight, 2020. I should have brought a bigger trailer. We have bigger trailers, but I wanted to get better gas mileage, so we took the smaller trailer that was enclosed and yeah, I missed out on a sweet deal because the trailer wasn't big enough, so a little upset about that one. 

Nick: I feel like everywhere you go is a business trip.

Cuz I get your emails and you're like, well we were over in Texas and we found this thing and we brought it back or we shipped it out. It's like, hey, everything is a write off these days. That's it. 

Rob: Our accountant absolutely loves us. Not really, but yeah, we, everything that we do, yeah, it's, we're able to incorporate our business into it and we just have a blast.

That's a great time. 

Nick: So with the, you say concrete polisher. Yeah. So how did you go about figuring out the value of that or what that might be worth 

Rob: On a flip? Yeah, definitely. This is actually crazy because normally if I see something with a $550 price tag, that was what was on this thing, I would just walk away, and not really think much of it.

Cuz that's a lot of money to invest. I walked away from it. I took mental note of what it was. I looked it up and I found out that they did have a couple of 'em selling the retail on it was like, 30, between 26 and $3,600. So I went back to the guy after about 10 or 20 minutes of walking around at the other vendors.

I asked him what his best deal he would take on it was, and he told me $400 cash. So I didn't have enough cash with me. Another lesson we learned on this thing, yeah, that you need to carry enough cash with you. So we ended up having to drive 10 miles to a gas station, go to the atm, get some cash and come back.

But I came back and offered him 360 cash for it. He jumped on it, he took it cuz it was the end of the day. And, we took off with it. So it was a cool experience. Okay. 

Nick: Anything that you wanted to get that, the one that got away or anything like that? 

Rob: Yeah, that was probably the big one that I just touched on.

We found a lift, it's like a scissor lift. I don't really know how to explain it. It's got like a basket on top. You get up inside of it, it's got hydraulics and it lifts you up to about 24. Foot, and this one was, I forgot what brand it was, but when I looked it up, the guy wanted $500 for it. It stood at six foot, four inches tall.

Our enclosed trailer has a roof on it, and it was at five foot eight inches tall, so I could not get it in there for the life of me. I tried to figure out how I could do it, how I could take it apart. There was no way to do it, so we missed out on that deal. It was $500 and yeah, I could have made at least, I'd say between four and $5,000 on that flip alone. So that one was a little, little upsetting, but you know, it is what it is. You live, you learn. 

Nick: There's inventory and space limitations in this business. Is there such thing, I know we talked a little bit about this last time on episode 147. Is there such thing as a sourcing process for you, or is it literally just, well, I'm gonna go to this 690 mile long yard sale.

I'm gonna go to my local flea market and just take a look around and see what looks interesting to you. 

Rob: Yeah, definitely. We have routines that we're in, for a lot of the stuff that we buy. The flea market is one of our routines. I go to every Saturday, Melissa, the kids come with me usually, but sometimes I'll go by myself if I get up early.

But yeah, that's one of our main sourcing routines is there. And then the relationships that I've built and our business relationships are everything. People that I've met. Vendors I've met at the flea market and I've built relationships with them through, you know, through the last two or three years.

They'll actually text me throughout the week, Hey, I got this, I found this deal. Are you interested? And yeah, they'll do that throughout the week where I don't even really have to go anywhere and I don't have to compete with other people because of those relationships that I built. They give me first track at whatever they find and then, you know, I can negotiate with them.

That's the biggest thing. But another thing are apps. There's so many apps out there right now that are just coming out every day with used stuff, used apps, and one of the big ones that we use is OfferUp. I play on that daily. I'll spend, you know, a couple minutes a day just scrolling through it, seeing what pops up and what people are trying to get rid of.

And you know, that's how we, we source a lot of our stuff as well, is on that app. 

Nick: Yeah, I was surprised by that. Cause at your recommendation actually listed some stuff that we've been trying to get rid of on OfferUp and had offers. Oh. You know, right away. Awesome. You know, I'm, I'm old school so I normally would use Craigslist and it is just, you know, a clun your interface and, you know, OfferUp made it really easy and I was, you said, okay, there's definitely a critical mass of buyers there.

Rob: Yeah, it's, it's a great app and we absolutely love it. So like I said, that's probably my favorite app and the one that I use the most. Exactly for sourcing. I don't sell as much on it, but sometimes we'll cross post and we'll throw some stuff on there. You never know what you're gonna get, but it's definitely, it's got the avenue for both.

Any other app that you like, offer up, let go. Those are two of the ones that I really, I don't know if a lot of people know I don't use Facebook. My wife is definitely the Facebook queen, so, but I got turned on recently to Facebook Marketplace. And I still don't know how to use Facebook, but I know how to get in there and search for deals on Facebook marketplace.

So that's probably my second favorite is offer Up and then Facebook Marketplace. 

Nick: Okay. Interesting. For the stuff that's not, it's local, but it's not like, you know, in-person, local I. Exactly. Yes. And then that allows you to, I imagine, do some, do some research or do some preliminary research before. I know we talked about before, just like awkwardly walking around the market, like Yeah.

Trying to look up stuff on your phone and circle around to the same guy. Is that still the process, for the in-person stuff? 

Rob: That's exactly how I do it. You know, I try and make a note, kinda like I just told you about the concrete polisher. I just take a mental note. I try to, you know, remember what the name brand is, what the model is, and then I walk away.

I walk away and do a little bit of research and see what I can come up with and then I'll walk back and actually make a deal if it's worth it or you know, I leave it and, and don't mess with it. So that's my in-person. But yeah, it's a way, way easier online on the apps cuz you can do all that re research before you send 'em an offer or try to make the deal.

Nick: One thing that is interesting about your business, at least from the outside looking in, is your, you're like category agnostic, it seems like, where we talked to Ryan Finley, from re Craigslist. He, you know, he kind of, you know, was doing a similar business on Craigslist, but specialized in flipping appliances and.

It seems like, you know, I'll, I'll do industrial equipment, I'll do prosthetic legs, I'll do exercise bikes, I'll do anything. Have you considered, or like, is there a specialty that I'm not seeing where it's like, okay, I'm gonna become the the go-to guy for product X, Y, Z? 

Rob: Yeah. Not really, because what we look for when we're out there is.

The stuff that's discounted most of the time, it's stuff that people don't think is worth, worth money. And then we take it from a local market and we put it on a, a national market. You know, we'll go anywhere once you throw it on eBay. You know, you get millions of people looking for it all over the US and all over the world.

So yeah, the, there's not really anything that we specialize in. I mean, it does make it. The experience makes it nice because if I do see, you know, another prosthetic leg or another prosthetic foot when I'm out there, I know that they're worth money in the back of my head. So I'm gonna go negotiate a deal right away and I try to get 'em and then try to resell 'em, so.

Nick: Okay.

I imagine, yeah. The more you do it, the more experience you have on what sells, what sits around for a while, you know what can command a good price. Yep. What kind of time are you guys putting into it these days? 

Rob: You know, we have three kids, three young kids. Our oldest one is starting kindergarten this year, so we don't spend, we're definitely not at 40 hours a week on this business.

Probably, I would say between between 30 and 40 I would say. But we don't usually go over that. And yeah, it's Melissa and I doing it and the kids jump in and they'll go into the flea market and yard sales with us and they have a blast. So, it's definitely under 40 hours a week for our full-time gig.

Nick: Did they bring you deals? Like, hey Daddy, come look at this 

Rob: or something. They, surprisingly, one of my, one of my vendors that I, I met at the flea market, he's the one who texts me stuff all week long. I go over to his house sometimes to pick up stuff, and I took my oldest daughter over there probably a month ago, and she got outta the car and we open up the gate.

She goes in the backyard and she just starts tearing through stuff in the backyard. Looking for stuff, looking for toys, looking for all kinds of stuff. And she's calling me over there and, uh, my vendor's like, man, you've trained her well. She's just like you. And I was like, yep, that's right. That's how it goes.

So yeah, 

Nick: they're a blast. So if the vendor is calling you with deals or texting you with deals and he knows you're turning around and flipping it for a profit, like, why doesn't he put that stuff up? On 

Rob: eBay. Honestly, I don't know, other than it's just what people know and that's how he makes money. One of my main vendors is a scrap guy, so he, all he does is get stuff from the trash or from, uh, businesses, and he takes it to the scrapyard and he scraps it.

He just wants his money, right then he wants his cash. For me, I take it and I'll, you know, clean it up, take some pictures of it, and I'll list it, and then my return on it is like 10 20 fold on what he sells it to me for. So, Which is crazy. He's got the same option. He knows exactly what I do. It's not like I hide it from him, but he just chooses the quick money and that's what he wants and that's how he makes his living.

Nick: Is there a target markup that you're trying to make on each deal? 

Rob: Not really. There's not any specific markup that we look for. We usually make at least 10 times our money on what we invest in. We're not in this business to make, you know, five, $10 per flip. You know, we, it's gotta be worthwhile to us.

And most of the time we wanna make three, three to $500 at least on our flips. So we're a little bit more picky. That's kind of where we're at nowadays. 

Nick: That's incredible to be able to flip something for 10 times what you paid for it. I'll compare that to like the Amazon FBA, like retail arbitrage, you know, stuff that I was playing around with, a couple years ago where it's like, okay, if I can double my money, like I'm happy with that.

Right? Like that's a nice return on investment. A way to multiply dollars, a lot faster than a lot of other investment channels. But you're saying well, shoot, I can 10x it. 

Rob: Yeah. And a lot of our stuff, we even go higher than 10x. So it just depends on what we find and what we get. So it makes it interesting and, it makes good money.

Nick: What's your, like, I'm picturing a across between like hoarders and, I don't know, some like, you know, makeshift garage situation. Like, what's your place look like or how do you store this stuff? Because I imagine not everything is gonna like flip tomorrow quick. It's gonna sit around for a while. 

Rob: Yeah, definitely.

And we have three storage units right now. We didn't start out with storage units. My started out just with my spare bedroom is how we started our business. Using that as my office to take pictures and store stuff. So we're up to three storage units right now. We have a two car detached garage that we have stuff in.

So yeah, we, we definitely have, and we're doing larger stuff now. There's a lot more payoff on the larger items for us. So yeah, we definitely have a lot of stuff and we're hoping by the end of this year to be into a warehouse that we can consolidate the, the storage units and put it all in one place.

That's our plan. But yeah, it's something that we are trying to grow into. It's not something that you start off with to start this business. 

Nick: Did you have a bus washing machine or something? 

Rob: Yeah. Yeah. We bought that. Man, we've had that one for a little while and I actually just took it over to, my buddy's house.

He was gonna help me put it, needed a motor on the bottom of it. We gotta rebuild and we haven't put it back on. But yeah, that's one of the weird things that we, invested in. And I haven't flipped it yet, but I haven't even listed it, so it's not even out there for sale yet. But we should make some really, really good money on that one.

Nick: Because that's gonna be like 30 feet long. 

Rob: It's huge. It stands upright. So it's upright on wheels and it's, I think it's about 15 foot tall is how tall it is. So yeah, you walk it around the bus to wash the bus and it's got that spinning wheel on it, the, that cleans it. So yeah, that, that's a really cool, like I said, that's a weird thing that most people wouldn't, would walk away from, but I like that stuff.

Nick: Okay. Cause you're like, well, to the right buyer, this is, this is worth a lot. 

Rob: Yeah. One of our flips we got from an auction, I think this was last year we did, we ended up buying a parking lot, security tower. It's a little, I guess you get into it, it's a little room that has an air conditioner inside of it.

It lifts you step into it and then you can lift it about 25 foot off the ground, and they put it in the middle of parking lots at theme parks and stuff like that to where you can get a view of the whole parking lot. So we ended up buying that from a local auction. We paid 6,000 bucks for it. Which drove Melissa crazy.

She hates when I invest that much money, but I did look at the retail before I bought it and we ended up buying that for 6,000 and then we flipped it in less than a month for 25,000. Wow. So yeah, that was a huge one of our flips. It was was awesome. 

Nick: Yeah. Not, not quite 10 x, but you did very well on that.

Rob: Exactly for that kind of turnaround. So, yeah. Did you have to do anything 

Nick: repairs to it? Like the, you mentioned the, the bus thing needed a new motor. Like is it common to have to put some labor into the stuff? 

Rob: Yeah, sometimes it is and sometimes it's not. That one we didn't do anything to, it was on a trailer, so we had plans of putting a, a, a camera system and all that stuff on it, but I was like, no, let's just sell it as is.

And we ended up just selling it as is without doing a thing to it. 

Nick: Okay, so it sounds like you found a niche to speak of. So to go back to the point about, you know, picking a category or nicheing down, it's like, it sounds like a lot of this stuff is bigger, bulkier items where there's probably less competition, right?

If people are flipping, you know, baby clothes or stuff they can carry in a backpack, like smaller stuff, there's a much broader. You know, market for that. And it's like, well, a 15 foot bus wash or this parking lot lifter air condition device thing, you know, there's fewer people that can take that. Has that been a contributing factor in kind of the, the revenue growth that you've seen?

Rob: I believe so. I believe, the, we're into larger items now. A lot of people are scared to ship larger items. They think it's gonna cost an arm and a leg, which we've been into it for so long now that we've narrowed down how to ship stuff. I'll give you an example. We shipped a dining room table. This was a, I think it was 12 chairs, and the table was eight foot long, if I'm not mistaken.

And it had a, a buffet with it. We shipped all that on one pallet and we shipped it for across the us. We ended up shipping it for, I believe, if I'm not mistaken, it was $300, right around $300, and it weighed over 2000, 2,500 pounds. Most people, if you would've called a normal shipping company, that would've cost you a thousand, $1,500 to ship.

But we built these systems, we've learned how to do this, and worked relationships out with the, the freight companies that were able to ship this stuff really, really cheap. And it makes it a lot easier for us to sell stuff online and then be able to ship it. 

Nick: Okay, interesting. So everybody else is competing locally and you say, well, I'm gonna compete, you know, nationwide, maybe even international through the marketplace of eBay, and I can ship this stuff because I know how.

Yeah. So where do you go to ship something? Like, I wouldn't even know where. To start to get something like that across the country. 

Rob: UShip is the name of the website that has changed the industries just because they've gone out there. They do it competitively so you can start, that's where we always start.

As you ship, you can find local carriers that are traveling up the us, down the us, whatever it is, and they'll bid on. Shipments, whatever. If they have room in their trailer and you know, they might be doing it in a small enclosed trailer, they might do it in the back of their pickup truck, but they'll actually bid on your shipment to actually take it down.

Or you can name your own price to do it. So you ship has changed the industry for shipping and ever since then we even, we deal with a local freight company as well that we've worked deals out with that we can get, we know we can go to them all the time and we can use them locally to ship stuff across the US.

Nick: So this is letter uship.com. Do you, go on there first to get an estimate of what it's gonna be before you list that item? Or, you know, how do you, you know, how do you price that into your listing? 

Rob: I kind of don't have to because I know if I'm shipping something, you know, for me the furthest shipping, the furthest I can ship is to California from Florida.

So I kind of have an idea of what anything's gonna cost me, and I can pretty much ship anything across the country for $200. So I know that going into it, Plus our items that we're shipping have such huge markups. If I gotta pay $250 or if I pay $150, it's not gonna break into my profits that I'm gonna make on the item.

So, you know, I kind of estimate when I'm listing something, like a lot of our large items right now that we list, I list it with free shipping. So we have a Harley Davidson sign on there right now, but we just sold one not that long ago, but we have another one on there. This thing's like 12 foot tall, I think it's 16 foot long, and I put free shipping on that.

Yeah. This one I'll actually drive. I won't ship it in a freight company, with a freight company, I'll actually put it on the back of my trailer and I'll drive it wherever it's going. But being said, that's what we kind of know because we've been in the business so long, or we've done these shippings for so long, we know what it's gonna cost us to, to ship something.

So. 

Nick: Say somebody wants to buy that from you, like in Alaska or something, you know, just take a epic, you know, month long road trip.

Rob: Not to Alaska. We won't do that. It's gotta be continental, but definitely we, we'll, we'll take a road trip and I'll go do it and I've done it before, but that's the other beauty of our business.

We're not responsible to somebody else who says you can take four days off here. And, that's all you get. You know, my wife and I and the kids, we can get out, and do some fun stuff like that. 

Nick: Yeah, it's cool to have that freedom and flexibility in in your day. And then of course you're gonna find more inventory while you're out on the road.

Exactly. You ever afraid of the deals drying up? It's like, you know, this is a, is a really cool business. Something that you can get into. You can start small and you can scale it up, but you've gotta go and hunt for that profit every month. It's kind of starting from scratch. 

Rob: Yeah. Great question. And other flippers that I have talked to that don't do the large items, they only do small stuff. Yeah, they're scared about that. But no, I could literally buy stuff every single day. That's how much I, how much stuff is out there. And we just did that yard sale through six states and I, I only scratched the surface of, you know, those small areas that we went through the states and I still was able to find good deals.

So there's deals out there everywhere. So, no, I'm, I'm not worried about that one bit cuz I know if I. Wanted to buy more items on a daily basis. I could easily do it and make more money. It's just restrictions for your storage and your time to turn around stuff. That's what we're limited to. 

Nick: Have you ever had something that just didn't sell and you ended up eating it and or just scrapping it?

Rob: Yeah. This is a great question. This is hilarious. We started at the beginning of this year. We started a challenge with our community 2018. We wanted to start with a $5 to a $25 purchase, and then we wanted to keep rolling the profits back into the purchases and see how much we could end with, end up with at the end of the year.

This is really cool. The only problem was I bought an inflatable boat in February, hindsight, 2020. I shouldn't have done that for my second flip. It was my second flip. I paid $225 for this inflatable boat in motor, and I ended up selling it. It was like two or three months later and I sold it for $190, so I lost money on that flip itself.

I'm not worried about the overall because easily $190 we can turn it into crazy money, but that was definitely not a good investment at the time just because of seasonality. Exactly season wise and the boat, it was a brand new boat, but it had never been inflated, so it wasn't in perfect condition. It, some of the seam had come un undone from it, and I didn't know that before I bought it either.

So that's definitely an item that we lost money on, just a little bit of money, but at the same time we'll be able to recoup it. 

Nick: Any other stories from that, from your community on that? I, I really love the idea of like starting with a really low dollar amount, $5 and like multiplying money. 

Rob: I wish I would move some stuff quicker to get further along, but I did it with something that I pulled out of the trash and I did it with a $5 investment.

And I think on the $5 investment, I think if I'm not mistaken, we're up to four or $500 and the one that we pulled outta the trash, I think I'm a little bit more, I think I'm closer to 2000 bucks on that one. Okay. What was in the garbage? A battery charger for a handicap or a, power wheelchair is what we pulled out of the garbage to start that second flip with.

Okay. We sold that one for $50. Rolled that one into, what did I roll that into? Another charger, A battery charger for a golf cart. I bought that one for, I wanna say it was $40. And then from that one we went up to two something. And then from that I bought a commercial stove for 150. So yeah, so that's the crazy part is yeah, we out of the trash, we started and I think we're up to two if I'm not mistaken, up to 2000 bucks on that second one.

So yeah. 

Nick: I love it. It's like the red paperclip guy. Well, I haven't heard that story. You remember him. So this was probably, you know, 10 or 12 years ago. So Guy started out with a red paperclip and just made trades, traded his way up to a house, I think in 14 or 15 trades. Really? Yeah. So I think that is like, that's really cool to me, you know, starting with, you know, these small items or these, you know, these inexpensive things.

And then just keep leveling up in terms of what you're buying, what you're flipping. So I think that's cool. Heck yeah, there's a time commitment in like sourcing and hunting and getting a knack for what sells, but there's, I don't know, there's like a, an X factor or something. I dunno. Like you've got the, the Rob special sauce or something like, do you find other people like having success with this, following your model?

Rob: Yeah, of course. We actually teach that course. We have an online course that we teach, and, we've had, I, I believe we have over, it's like 250, 300 people in our community right now. The skill can be learned, but you need to like going to flea markets, yard sales, if you like to hunt for those deals.

Yeah, you can definitely learn the rest. I mean, I have a. A little bit of an edge on people because I've done it for so long. We've built, I guess, a repertoire of what we've sold and what, when we're out there looking, we know more of what to look for that will sell, because we've probably sold it in the past.

But yeah, all it is is experience. It's just like every job. The more you work at it, the more you spend time in it, you can get better and better at it. What's next for you and Melissa? Right now, like I said, we're gonna try to get into a warehouse by the end of the year. We also have been approached by, this is the second production company who's approached us and we're in the process of creating, we don't know if it's gonna go through, they're actually, you know, seeking us out, but creating a TV show.

So we'll find out, hopefully within the next couple months if it's gonna go through, and then that's a possibility. We, we, we might be on tv. You're a celebrity, you're gonna be on tv. Yeah, it's possible. So we'll see how it goes. But as for the business wise, our big thing is to actually get a warehouse.

Nick: Let's go back to the TV thing. So like, how do these, how do these people find you? That's super cool. 

Rob: Yeah, definitely. YouTube, we do YouTube videos, and our, our website and our blog and stuff like that. Like I told you guys before, we have three young kids. My wife and I, were all involved in the business.

They make videos with me and these production companies, this is the second one that's approached us. They find our family say we are look adorable, and they love our business model. They love what we do. It's just very, very weird. They think it'd make a good TV show. So that's kind of how we've got found by them.

Nick: Most, like storage wars took off. It's like, you know, these kind of turning trash into treasure kind of stories. Yeah. That's awesome, man. Well, we'll have to do another, where are they now episode, when follow up are super famous. Fleamarketflipper.com and Flipper University is the course if you wanna learn more about the flea market flipping business. Rob, always a pleasure man. I'm excited to, to catch up with you, see, everything that you got going on. Let's wrap this thing up with your number one tip for Side Hustle Nation. 

Rob: Yeah, definitely stick with it guys. You might not find stuff when you're out there.

Every single time you're trying to source on your phone. You're out at a thrift store, yard sale. Just stick with it if it's what you love. If you love hunting out those deals, stick with it until you, you make it work. So that's the best advice I could give you. 

Nick: Absolutely. That echoes the number one tip from 2015, which was consistency.

So stick with it, which is exactly what you've done and have turned this into a really cool business that's that's supporting your family. So Rob, once again, man, thank you so much for joining me and we'll catch up with you soon.